Just go...

**Ogreasy** · May 7th, 2004, 08:43 PM

Yeah, I'm kind of creepy fascist/commie when it comes to work.
I work hard at everything I do.
I am very enthusiastic and industrious.
And I hate how some people coast on the state to provide for them.

**Xellos** · May 7th, 2004, 08:44 PM

I'm lazy, unless I have proper motivation. I'lld ot he least bit, unless I need to. But I definetly won't let welfare support me or any bs like that.

**mrwiseman** · May 7th, 2004, 09:02 PM

IRT CBA:

In America theres not the stuff to make fire sticks just lying around on the ground.

Nor it grows from the European trees. We had to use our intelligence to make them. And they had the potential to do the same, plus even more land and better resources and weather. I don't know why didn't they do them; if we had gone there with our fire sticks and they had welcome us with greater fireworks, we would have greeter their emperor, wished them luck, left our business cards, and hurried back to Europe like a happy puppy. That's what happened with China.

IRT OCB:

Let me suggest something to you. Britain and the US decide to invade Spain. What would you do? Welcome us with open arms, or defend the land you were born on. What if it was a collection of Islamic countries?

I would fight to death, but here in the west we have less barbaric ways. For example, I wouldn't go and kill your neighbors' children, I would rather do something about those planes you've got, they wouldn't look too well flying over my head. Besides, France, Germany, Russia, and China would join just to piss the USA off like they always try to do. Although I don't know if France fighting for us is a good idea. LOL, j/k. A collection of islamic countries? I would fight as well, only it'd be much easier due to lower intelligence in oppontents. A western soldier must be worth 2-10+ of those muslim fighters. Anyways, by the NATO treaty, if any of us is attacked by the moors, it'll be every other country's duty to use what they have to fight back; Turkey wouldn't know what to do, there's the US army, and Greece has an excellent position to launch attacks from, so it would be relatively easy to win. Not a happy thought, however, as it would be a third world war.

America is built on stolen land. Luckly, the Indians don't seem to mind anymore. But it's understandable that when people are invading you, you resist them.

Back then, we stole everything from each other; instead of having football, we would go and try to take over our neighbor's stuff. What's Spain built on? I'll tell you, a bunch of Celtic and Iberian towns, then the Romans took over them, then the Barbarians took over them, then the muslim pests came from morocco, then the northeners kicked their asses out of there, but we had different kingdoms that eventually joined, then the French came, then we kicked their asses out, and somehow, we ended like this. The ""real"" Spain would be part Celtic part pre-Roman Iberian, but they probably took over other towns as well... I doubt we can really talk about land ownership, especially in a continent with our history.

WRT Communism: It's a nice idea. But it doesn't work. It's because people are individualistic, as Wiseman said. For Communism to work, everyone needs to pull the same work. People need to work like ants.

Yeah. And we're smarter than ants, somehow. So we need stuff. Our own stuff. Like your av and my av. They are different, and no gov't owns them. (Although Square owns the rights for mine.) ^_^

WRT home bashing: It's because people feel they have a voice in first class lands. Third class, you either won't get heard, or you'll be killed.

Yeah, but now there's not a real third class here, and what are some left wingers doing bashing our (i.e. their own) culture like that, and being tolerant with others only? It would seem they want to screw it and convert Europe to islam.

WRT State benefits: I hate people who just say "give me money bitch" like they deserve it for being lazy. They really need a job, best way is to let them starve a bit.

Exactly. I couldn't agree more. When people have things hard, they learn to work hard, and chances are that if they work hard they'll eventually get money and live pretty nicely.

BTW Wiseman, don't be surprised. I think everyone needs a job. Being lazy is saved for school and when robots have taken over all the work we do. I still support free health care and education, but giving people money for nothing, no way.

My thoughts exactly. I do support free health and education, I think it's a good service our countries give us, think of it like the army; would it make sense that you have to pay something to the army so it defends your home, otherwise they'll let it burn? A country has to offer protection and services to citizens. And free education guarantees smart people will always be able to study what they want and become great scientists/artists/whatever. Europe is not less capitalist and fair for having this for free; I think it's a better system, and it guarantees equal opportunities, which is one of the principles of capitalism, besides.

**One Classy Bloke** · May 7th, 2004, 09:06 PM

"The world isn't az boring happy land where noone conquers anyone... if it were, we'd still all be barbarians."

This doesn't make sense. Because we don't conquer each other, we become barbarians. If i remember rightly, don't they slightly, destroy and conquer villages?

**Xellos** · May 7th, 2004, 09:15 PM

I just meant that we'd be the basic starting groups once we became somewhat civilized. Like, ancient Greek, Native Americans, China... etc.

**Cavalier** · May 8th, 2004, 02:30 AM

doncha wish it was all as simple as a world domination game? ... no? ok whatever lol

personally i dont know who should leave what and who should beat who in the middle east's conflict between israel and palestine... =__=

**One Classy Bloke** · May 8th, 2004, 10:48 AM

I know! Let's take all the people how are fighting in that place, send them to an island and have then battle royale. Who ever wins takes the country. It seems like one side has to die for the conflict to end.